Friday, September 11, 2015

wk5 - OUR MUTUAL JOY – summary - Miller

In a topic-driven, well-developed paragraph (like Peter Bigelow’s), SUMMARIZE Miller’s “Gay Marriage: Our Mutual Joy.” Clearly identify the author’s thesis and supporting arguments—Miller’s “they say.” Be specific. Use examples from the text in your response to substantiate your claim.


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  1. Lisa Millers article Gay Marriage: Our Mutual Joy is an article about the battle over gay marriage. Miller is going against what Rev. Richard A Hunter says. Hunter says, “ the Bible and Jesus define marriage as between one man and one women. The church cannot condone or bless same-sexy marriages because this stands in opposition to scripture and our tradition”. She delves into the scriptural context in order to prove her “ I say” argument starting with the fact that the Bible and Jesus say nothing that defines marriage as between man and women. The fact that homosexual couples cannot procreate has also been seen as biblical objection towards homosexual marriage. Miller’s argument to that is “ the Bible authors could never have imagined the brave new world of international adoption and assisted reproductive technology—and besides, heterosexuals who are infertile or past the age of reproducing get married all the time”. Miller believes that if Jesus were alive today, he would reach out especially to the gays and lesbians because “ He does not want people to be lonely and sad”.

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  2. Miller explains in her opinion why gay men and women should be allowed to get married. She uses examples from the bible of single men like Paul and uses his words on marriage to support her argument. She says the argument over gay marriage is a battle fought for decades and it needs to stop. She uses other examples like Rev. Richard A. Hunter who states, "The Bible and Jesus define marriage as between one man and one woman. The church cannot condone or bless same-sex marriages because this stands in opposition to Scripture and our tradition." She goes on and supports her argument by saying, “While the Bible and Jesus say many important things about love and family, neither explicitly defines marriage as between one man and one woman.” She uses references in the Old Testament of traditional families, she states that the bible does not give decent examples of what a traditional family is. She concludes that the bible its self is not the root to the problem of people not agreeing with homosexual marriage but tradition is.

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  3. Lisa Miller tells us her views on gay marriage in her article "Gay Marriage: Our Mutual Joy". As she argues in this passionate article against Rev Richard A. Hunter over why he opposes her opinion because: he believes that marriage is between a man and a women. Miller believes that there are two different responses that clearly state otherwise that Rev. Hunter is wrong. She says that "...while the Bible and Jesus say many important things about love and family, neither explicitly define marriage as between one man and one woman..." She believes that scripture backs up her opinion on gay marriage. Miller believes it is more about the love each persons has for one another, not the sex that they are.

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  4. Gay Marriage: Our Mutual Joy by Lisa Miller is an article about religious stand points and how the Bible defines marriage. "The battle over gay marriage has been waged for more than a decade, but within the last six months—since California legalized gay marriage and then, with a ballot initiative in November, amended its Constitution to prohibit it—the debate has grown into a full-scale war, with religious-rhetoric slinging to match". This quote made it obvious that people were fighting for gay marriage for a very long time and now gay marriage is legalized. "First, while the Bible and Jesus say many important things about love and family, neither explicitly defines marriage as between one man and one woman". It's clear that in the Bible that it's not okay to marry the same sex. It's a sin.

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  5. Lisa Miller's article "Our Mutual Joy" is mostly about an argument over gay marriage. Miller believes that marriage doesn't have to be between a man and a woman, but people of the same sex should be able to marry as well. Another reason same sex couples should not be able to marry is that same sex couples cannot reproduce. When a couple marries they are supposed to reproduce and build a family. Miller says that if Jesus were alive today he would try to help out homosexual people because he does not want them to "feel alone." In reality Jesus would not want to help them because he does not believe in homosexuality or same sex marriage.

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  6. One of today’s most controversial topics is the issue of gay marriage. In the Newsweek article “Gay Marriage: Our Mutual Joy”, author Lisa Miller consistently degrades the Bible’s definition of marriage, attempts to find loopholes in what the Bible says about marriage, and claims that “the bible doesn't give abundant examples of traditional marriage.” While the beginning of Miller’s point seems understandable, throughout the article she is constantly claiming that “The Bible was written for a world so unlike our own, it's impossible to apply its rules, at face value, to ours.” This point is extremely inaccurate, and while the time period was extremely different than today’s time, the words were given to the Bible’s authors by God, who is omniscient. Another point Miller emphasizes is that the Old Testament and New Testament both give examples of men and women who break the definition of marriage such as Abraham, who slept with other women when he found out his wife was infertile, or Jacob who has four children, all with different mothers. While it is true that these men broke the definition of marriage, God works in everyone’s life in a different way and allowed all of those situations to occur. The article is concluded with a quote from Rev. Chloe Breyer, executive director of the Interfaith Center in New York, “People get married "for their mutual joy,"...That's what religious people do: care for each other in spite of difficulty… In marriage, couples grow closer to God: "Being with one another in community is how you love God. That's what marriage is about." While I do agree that as Christians we are supposed to love each other, I firmly believe in the Bible’s definition of marriage and that it is meant for one man and one woman.

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  7. Miller in “Our Mutual Joy” is trying to convince everyone that gays should have the same rights as everyone else, and that the Bible says nothing against gay marriage. She says that the Bible never specifically says anything about sex between a woman and a woman. She then uses the idea that we say polygamy is wrong, but that Bible characters practice polygamy all the time. We also use the idea that homosexuals can’t reproduce, but she says with modern technology it’s possible. Throughout the whole essay any time the Bible says that it’s wrong she attacks it and says well it also says this or that. She takes the Bible out of context in almost every area, but she says that we do the same thing.

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  8. Reading the article “Our Mutual Love” by Lisa Miller helps the audience understand the roots and comparisons of homosexuality. When Miller puts the statement into Biblical terms, she goes more in depth with the marriage traditions from Abraham and his sons in the Bible, “Abraham, Jacob, David, Solomon and the kings of Judah and Israel—all these fathers and heroes were polygamists. The New Testament model of marriage is hardly better.” This helps her argument of how both same sex and traditional sex both have their flaws, but at the same time can also be good marriages. And when she puts it into modern day society, she explains where the negativity of homosexuality began and how it all got started and in the process of resolve.

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  9. The essay of Lisa Miller describes the two aspects of gay marriage, one is the religious view and the other one is the non-religious view. For the religious refusal of gay marriage, she quote Rev. Richard A. Hunter, a United Methodist minister: “The Bible and Jesus define marriage as between one man and one woman. The church cannot condone or bless same-sex marriages because this stands in opposition to Scripture and our tradition.” She negates this quote with the argument of that the Bible and Jesus don’t “explicitly defines marriage as between one man and one woman.” Her second argument is that nearly nobody marries because of the biblical beliefs, but of practical benefits. She critics that “it’s impossible to apply its rules” of the bible because of the completely different world nowadays. Another argument against the religion view of gay marriage is that there are no “particular texts, but with the general conviction that the Bible is bent toward inclusiveness.” She ends her essay with a quote of a friend of her, the priest James Martin: “Jesus does not want people to be lonely and sad.”

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  10. Gay Marriage Summary
    Luke Edge
    In this article, Miller argues that the biblical outline of marriage does not coincide with the well-known outline of marriage today. If this is true about straight marriage, why not also gay marriage? Miller explains that Jesus himself was indifferent to worldly things, including marriage, yet Biblical scholars try to say that Jesus said marriage is between a man and a woman. “Religious objections to gay marriage are not rooted in the Bible at all, then, but in custom and tradition.” Miller argues that the Bible was written for a world so different than ours, that it is impossible to apply its rules to today’s society.

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  11. Throughout the article, Gay Marriage: Our Mutual Joy, Miller refutes the idea of marriage in its entirety, not just gay or straight marriage. She explains how the Bible never specifically says anything against same sex marriage. “While the Bible and Jesus say many important things about love and family, neither explicitly defines marriage as between one man and one woman.” (Miller Paragraph 4) Miller urges us in that the Bible was not written for the people of today’s time because all of the change.

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  12. Lisa Miller, in her article “Our Mutual Joy”, argues that the Bible doesn't specifically talk on the subject of “gay marriage”. She also says the Bible doesn't even give a good model marriage, and she backs his up with looking directly at the patriots. Abraham slept with Hagar when Sarai wasn't able to bear children, and the other stories like David and solomon where there was more than one wife. Miller calls them polygamist and she uses that as a big part of her argument. Miller also states that the apostle Paul doesn't speak directly on gay marriage and neither did jesus. Therefore the bible gives multiple reasons why “gay marriage” is okay.

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