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a topic-driven, well-developed paragraph, SUMMARIZE Chapter Five: “And Yet.” Clearly identify the authors’
thesis and supporting
arguments. Be specific. Use examples from the text in your
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Chapter 6 of "They Say I Say" talks about transition. The transition from talking about their opinion to how it helps prove yours, going from they say to what you say. And doing so without complete confusion about who is talking and saying what. Graff and Birkenstein state that "To avoid confusion in your own writing, make sure that at every point your readers can clearly tell who is saying what." So make sure when you use voice Identifying by using certain templates that will assist you.
ReplyDeleteChapter 5 “And Yet” is all about differing from what you say and what others say. The author says “It is extremely important that readers be able to tell at every point when you are expressing your own view and when you are stating someone else’s.” If we do not clearly distinguish from our views and others in our writing the reader can get confused. We need to also be aware that we are not using too many I’s. Many “I’s” could get very boring and irritating so try using a nice variety. Not only does the writer have to clearly distinguish ideas, but the reader has to pay attention in order for him to fully understand who is speaking. If both the reader and the writer do their part there should be no problem with distinguishing who is talking.
ReplyDeleteGraff and Berkenstein explain how to clearly distinguish between what "they say" and what "I say" in your writing. They both agree that most of the time when students have trouble reading a text it is not always challenging words, but it is the confusion that comes with trying to distinguish what the writer says, opposed to what they are arguing against. In your writing you do not always have to be very specific, instead you can use voice markers to indicate what "you say" and what "they say". For instance, when disagreeing with someone, using words such as "yet" to show that you are switching from their argument to your own view. For readers "paying attention to these voice markers is an important aspect of reading comprehension." (Berkenstein 70)
ReplyDeleteChapter 5 “They say, I say”- Summary
ReplyDeleteChapter 5 is about being able write your “I say” and “they say” statements and not have the reader be confused about which one is which. It’s about being able to clearly state your opinion and not have it get mixed in with others. This chapter gives templates from pervious chapters to help clarify each other’s opinions. An Example used in this chapter would be something like “Although Gagnon makes a good case on ‘Gay marriage’ I do not agree because….” This chapter says that first person is relevant to use in order to persuade your “I say” argument.
In Chapter five of They Say / I Say authors Gerald Graff and Cathy Birkenstein address how to move on from what they say to what you say without confusing your readers. It is important to add in voice markers such as “or so it would seem” or “yet” when arguing a point. This indicates that the writer does not necessarily agree with the point of view that he is interpreting without saying “I say” or “I believe”. If writers fail to use voice-marking devices, their point of view can become disorganized and mixed in with their own ideas. Most people have been told before that “Using the “I” words encourage subjective, self-indulgent opinions rather than well-grounded arguments.” (72) The authors address that using the word “I” in your writing is actually correct, and it shows where you stand on a point without confusing your reader.
ReplyDeleteIn chapter five, the authors talk about how to transition from what other people are saying, to what you are saying. The best way to do this is to use "voice markers." These are helpful because they indicate the switch from they say to I say.They then discuss the usage of first person pronouns in academic writing. Usually, it is not wise to use first person when writing, but it can be effective when used properly.
ReplyDeleteThe Authors, in chapter five, of They Say, I Say explain to readers the importance of, “distinguishing what you say from what they say.” Or being able differentiate your opinion from the opinion of someone you may have quoted or an argument you brought into your writing. Readers could become easily confused about where the writer stands with the quote or argument and that’ll make them stop and think about what you actually mean. The authors suggest the use of “voice marker” or subtle hints throughout your writing to allow the reader to catch on about who is actually speaking. Also the authors argue that the use of “I” or “We” doesn't encourage, “subjective, self-indulgent opinions” but rather can be supported just as well by using “persuasive reasons and evidence”. This would allow the writer to incorporate their opinion into their writing very easily and also make it easier for readers to differentiate the writer speaking and the “others” who may quoted by “blending” the writers opinion.
ReplyDeletechapter five of they say i say explains to readers the importance of distinguishing what you say from what they say. basically this means being able to differentiate your opinion from someone you may have quoted's opinion or argument.
ReplyDeleteIn chapter 5, the topic is about the 'Distinguishing What You Say from What They Say'. The main point about this section of the book is trying to explain how to use someone else's ideas and still be able to express your own opinion. Another thing is how to use quotation marks and transition into your own thoughts without it making it obvious that you got the information from a source.
ReplyDeleteChapter 5 talks about transition, transition is when you talk about the "they say" to help prove what you have to say. It also explains how to tell the difference between what they say and what you say and how to explain your opinion from the person you quoted opinion.
ReplyDeleteChapter five of the informational piece "They Say I Say" it talks about more in depth in the "They Say" category. The authors claim that to have more creative writing and giving a well informed or educational statement is to use other worldly views from other opinions. Most would call those as "voice markers" to mark the other perspective for the writers own advantage in his or her writing. Overall, this chapter was very informative to the reader by describing better strategy to take on the "They Say" section of the statement and wisely using other sources for credibility.
ReplyDeleteIn chapter Five of They say I say the author writes to us about how to smoothly show readers our transitions from what “they say” to what “we say”. The author goes on to say that as writers a good tool to use would be what we call “voice Markers”. This is where the writer clearly says something to the fact that the reader knows who’s views or opinions are being stated. In closing the chapter we see that it is technically ok to write in first person using “I”. The author also says that we should not only rely on I but also use other first person statements.
ReplyDeleteThe Chapter Five is mainly about, how to put your opinion into the context, while others know who are saying what. It is really important to make the person clear who states the argument, otherwise the consequence is confusion. With several templates, the authors of the book show how to deal with these problems. Another part of the chapter is “embedding” references into the own sentence.
ReplyDeleteChapter five is used to explain how we transition from what others say, to what you say. The authors urge the use of the first person to show changes from they say, to I say. It is not always recommended to write in first person, however it work well when used correctly.
ReplyDeleteChapter five of the book "They Say/ I Say", is about Distinguishing what you say from what they say. Educator Gregory Mantsios distinguish the different perspectives by using voice markers. Its about making the person/speaker clear and obvious that its that persons argument. There are many templates in chapter five that displays signals for who is saying what in your own writing as well.
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